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Bob Lazar

Claimed he was a physicist hired by the Majestic 12 to reverse engineer alien propulsion technology at Area 51 back in 1989. At the time of his "disclosure" Element 115 was still undiscovered, Bob Lazar claimed this Element had a stable isotope which was the key to alien antigravity technology.

The Bob Lazar Report: PDF by Michael Schratt

What know for sure about Robert Scott Lazar is that he tooks some basic electronics classes at Pierce Junior College, worked briefly for a sub-contractor of Los Alamos national labs called "Kirk Mayer corporation" as an electronics technician (which is how his name got listed in that phone book). We know that Bob listed his occupation as a self-employed photo processor on Court Documents during the time he was supposedly also employed as a scientist... And that the W-2 and the ID badge which he provided as evidence appear to be fake (the ID badge Bob later admitted was a "replica"). Funny... Since the security badge should have been issued by the primary security contractor for Area 51 at the time which would be Wackenhutt, and not the MJ-12 or the United States Department of Naval Intelligence which hasn't formally existed since WW2 when it was changed to the Office of Naval Intelligence.

This type of Above Top Secret research work is often performed by independent contractors (like EG&G in the case of Area 51). This is done to keep the information compartmentally separate from the Military and the Government in case of investigations or prying eyes from within. It makes no sense for scientists to be hired and paid directly through a department of the Navy, defunct or not.. In fact, if there were such a super secret department of the Navy which conducted this type of advanced research.. Why risk exposing it to the public by paying scientists through it, and not just pay through a separate payroll agency like normal people in Intelligence Operations do???

To date, Bob Lazar can provide no clear proof or credentials to back up his education claims. He claims that the government destroyed all the records of his education. It later was discovered that Bob had been enrolled in courses at Pierce Junior College at the same time he was supposedly attending CalTech.

In 1993, the Los Angeles Times looked into his background and found there was no evidence to support those claims.[1] Stanton Friedman was only able to verify that Lazar took electronics courses in the late 1970s at Pierce Junior College.[4] The Times did discover that in 1990 Lazar had pled guilty to felony pandering, when he installed a computer system for a local brothel,[5] declared bankruptcy and listed his occupation as self-employed photo processor on documents.[1] A 1991 Times article reported, Lazar was "on probation in Clark County, Nevada, on a pandering charge. His educational and professional background cannot be verified -- a fact he attributes to government deletion of records."[6]

1. a b c Rivenberg, Roy (May 6, 1993). "Unusually Fanatical Observers Ike Struck Deal With Aliens! Trip to..." . Los Angeles Times.
2. "Tales of Vegas Past: The truth was out there" . Las Vegas Mercury. June 12, 2003. Retrieved 2008-12-12.
3. England, Terry (June 27, 1982). "LA MAN JOINS THE JET SET - AT 200 MILES AN HOUR" . Los Alamos Monitor. pp. A1 & A8.
4. The Bob Lazar Fraud December 1997 By Stanton Friedman
5. "Gene Huff's Lazar Synopsis" . 1995. Archived from the original on 2007-06-07. Retrieved 2011-01-24.
6. Sands, Shannon (March 20, 1991). "Believers Are Not Alone Outer space: A Nevada military base lures the Faithful" . Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2009-02-02.

By far the most interesting detail in Bob's History is the fact he listed his occupation as a self employed photo processor. This kind of ability means Bob was perfectly suited to forge the documents he provided as evidence for his employment at Area 51:

There are several problems with these documents which prove them fraudulent, these are listed below:

1. OMB & Document Control Number

Lazar points out on his web page: ‘Note at the top of the slip is a field reserved for the O.M.B. (Office of Management and Budget.)’ like it’s something special that validates his argument. Well The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) approves all IRS tax forms that are subject to the Act and each IRS form contains (in or near the upper right corner) the OMB approval number, if assigned. So the ‘OMB No. 1545-0008 is the OMB Document Control number, nothing else and teachers and clerks have the same thing on their W2. See:

2. Employer's Name

The "United States Department of Naval Intelligence", if you look it up, has not formally existed since World War II, and has since been known as the Office of Naval Intelligence. (

Id Badge

The ID Badge should have been issued by the security company which was Wackenhutt for Area 51 at the time. Bob Lazar later admitted it was a replica.

Another interesting fact is that during the time Bob Lazar was supposedly working on a super above top secret military physics program to reverse engineer extra-terretrial space craft, he was also a close associate of two UFO enthusiasts named John Lear and Gene Huff, who knew all kinds of interesting "Insider" details about Area 51, and would have been exactly the type of guys that the security at Area 51 would be watching closely to make sure you weren't talking to people like this... It seems much more likely to me, that Bob's friends helped him to craft his story in order to use it as a vehicle to get their "information" out to the public.

Lazar did have some background as a technology hobbyist which is why he sounds so smart like he actually knows what he is talking about. His affinity to use this for attention and the spotlight has likewise been documented.

Note the similarities:

Bob Lazar's Craft description:

Billy Meier's craft description:

Billy Meier is another name I have included in the debunked bin. Although the artist who drew the image for Lazar likely was also influenced by the artwork produced for Billy Meier, I can't help but sense that Bob plagiarized at least part of his UFO descriptions from the work of Billy Meier.

This is not the strongest point against Bob Lazar's claims of authenticity, but I still thought I should include it for reference

So why does Bob's "Sport Model" look so much like the Billy Meier Craft???
One successful hoaxster borrwing from another??

Element 115

Later discovered in particle accelerator experiments in 2003:

The first successful synthesis of moscovium was by a joint team of Russian and American scientists in August 2003 at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (JINR) in Dubna, Russia. Headed by Russian nuclear physicist Yuri Oganessian, the team included American scientists of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. The researchers on February 2, 2004, stated in Physical Review C that they bombarded americium-243 with calcium-48 ions to produce four atoms of moscovium. These atoms decayed by emission of alpha-particles to nihonium in about 100 milliseconds.

Old Chemistry Textbooks used to show the higher elements predicted, though not yet discovered in the laboratory. Often with parentheses or a question mark next to the number. Assuming that Bob Lazar took High School Chemistry sometime in the late 1970s he would probably have seen something similar...

Bob could have easily made up the story about Element 115 from information available to any high school chemistry student.. Yet people somehow think that the discovery of an unstable isotope of Element 115 by scientists in 2003, somehow vindicate Bob Lazar's claims of a SUPER-STABLE isotope of Element 115 with REMARKABLE ANTI-GRAVITY properties...

Click Here for a more in-depth discussion on the Nuclear Physics and Chemistry of Element 115

S-4 Fact or Fiction?

Bob Lazar claimed that he worked between December 1988 and April 1989 in at the zone S-4

The Jerry Freeman Story

The Jerry Freeman story completely challanges the narrative put forth by Bob Lazar about a Top Secret Base on Papoose Lake called "S-4". For if Bob's story were true, then Jerry Freeman would most certainly have been apprehended for coming so close to the base.

To date, no credible evidence has ever been put forth to prove a facility ever existed at Papoose Lake, where Lazar claimed this top secret Government owned UFO hanger was...

The Zeta Reticuli 2 Corporation and defrauding of Bigelow Aerospace

I just came across this 1997 article by Glenn Campbell offering a skeptical theory about Bob Lazar and his claims:

Lazar Theory #1: Fraud for Bigelow Funding

Lazar made up the story on his own based on his own significant technical knowledge, his peripheral work with a contractor on the Nellis Range and the prior Area 51 alien claims of John Lear (aliens eating humans in a vast underground base), which Lazar "cleaned up" and made more plausible.
What was Lazar's motivation? Money. Under Theory #1, Lazar cooked up the story to obtain funding from Las Vegas philanthropist Robert Bigelow, who was known to sponsor far-out projects.
Some details not mentioned in the article...
  • The registration for the "Zeta Reticuli 2" corporation is a public record at the Nevada Department of State, which registers corporations. Both Lazar and Bigelow are listed as officers. As the story goes, Lazar not only worked with Element 115; he managed to smuggle some of it out, and the corporation was somehow intended to test or exploit it. (So much for intense base security! How can a low-level employee smuggle what is arguably the most precious substance on Earth?) We still don't know the purpose or business plan of the Zeta Reticuli 2 Corporation. The only thing certain is that it existed. We can also assume that when a private corporation is formed, its intent is to make money.
  • Lazar himself had no idea his story would get so big. He was just out to pull off a modest con (according to Theory #1). Almost from the day the story was broadcast (and he was identified publically as the source), Lazar has been trying to put the brakes on it.
  • Lazar has never been to Area 51! If he had, he could have described innocuous details of the base that any genuine worker would know -- like the cafeteria or what you first see when you get off the plane. There are a LOT of people who can verify these details, and one former worker in particular (who I met) grilled Lazar in private about them and got nowhere. Funny that someone would be willing to reveal details of a super-secret saucer program but not details of the cafeteria.
  • Lazar had reason to be afraid of the government! If he had a security clearance, he could have been prosecuted for releasing classified information or any information about classified facilities -- even innocuous non-alien information. (LOL! So maybe THAT'S why he can't discuss the Area 51 cafeteria! If he had been there, he could have been prosecuted for that, whereas he can't be prosecuted for revealing a nonexistent saucer base at Papoose Lake.)
  • FBI interest in Lazar was real. Knapp describes interaction with an agent "Mike Thigpin" who was apparently investigating Lazar. Knapp takes this as evidence the Lazar story is true. My interpretation, however, is that as soon as the Lazar story was broadcast on KLAS-TV, the government itself was scrambling for answers to determine if any classified (non-alien) information had been released.
  • Lazar says that he went public on KLAS only to save his own life. There could be an element of truth to this! Remember that Lazar first appears on KLAS in shadow as "Dennis". If the government managed to identify him anyway and Lazar had a security clearance, then they are going to start harassing him. Every if the story is fictitious, he has certainly breached security protocols. The best way to save his own ass is to go fully public with his (fake) story. Then he is protected by publicity and the government can't touch him.
  • Knapp says that Los Alamos denied Lazar worked there, but Knapp found Lazar's name in an official facility phone directory. Proof of a cover-up? Not exactly. Los Alamos is a big place, with lots of contractors and sub-contractors. Lazar could have worked "at" Los Alamos without working "for" Los Alamos. There is no question he worked for a contractor there (which certainly would have given him a primer on government secrecy).
  • I remember seeing a document in the pre-internet era (although I haven't been able to find it again) which purported to be an internal military memo, released at the time of the KLAS broadcast, confirming that Lazar had worked on the Nellis Range, but that he had never been to any "forward areas", apparently meaning Area 51. It remains plausible but unproven that Lazar worked briefly on the Nellis Range and could have picked up many details of his story there. That he worked on the range and/or had a security clearance was reason enough for the FBI to take an interest in him after his claims were broadcast.
  • Lazar is a smart dude, no question about it! (That is, smart in technical ways, not necessarily in his own life choices or in the ways of other people.) Although he probably misjudged public response to his story and probably didn't gain the reward he sought, he can certainly look a few chess moves ahead and say, "If I do this, then this other bad thing will happen to me." That may explain why he hasn't exploited his story in the obvious ways, like taking big fees for speaking at UFO conferences or giving interviews. (However, that hasn't prevented him from seeking Hollywood deals. Maybe he is just trawling for bigger fish.)
  • In May 1989, around the time Lazar first went public, Scientific American published an article on hypothetical elements in that vicinity. Back in those ancient pre-internet days, everyone read the same magazines. Lazar was certainly well-read and intelligent, and Scientific American would have been on his reading list. It is conceivable he picked up Element 115 from there.
  • My ex-wife once worked at TTR and she drove back and forth in her own car between there and Rachel. She passed "Site 4" every day, although she swears it was labelled "S4". It's a radar facility on a plain with no hillsides you could build saucer hangers into, but this real name could have found its way into Lazar's story. Perhaps he indeed worked there! (If so, then he might have attained a degree of legal protection by displacing it to Papoose Lake.)
  • Before making his UFO claims, Lazar was a friend of Jim Tagliani, who worked at TTR at the time. He could have told Lazar about "Site 4" on the Nellis Range as well as other information about range operations.
  • There's nothing at Papoose Lake. Nothing. We've looked at it from every angle (short of setting foot there). The key thing is roads. There's no road infrastructure that could support even a few buses a day, let alone a major construction project in the area.
  • I like this quote from my article: "True or false, I feel the Lazar story has enriched my life in many interesting ways."

  • Debunked?

    Requirements for Re-Evaluation: Discovery of a Stable Isotope of Element 115 as predicted and described by Bob Lazar. With the magic number of 184 neutrons, therefore, having an atomic mass of 299.

    Until Lazar can confirm his educational background, and his scientific claims, we must conclude that his story was a total fabrication.

    Did Bob Lazar do it for the money???